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Abortion is worse than pedophilia

“The right to life is the first among human rights.”
– Pope Francis

Abortion is worse than pedophilia. It’s not even a maybe. Abortion is worse than pedophilia.

The two share much in common. They are both highly self-centred acts lacking in all compassion for the innocent. They both serve the purely selfish desires of the individual. They both involve defenceless children. They are both acts of extraordinary depravity. And they are both irreversible.

What distinguishes the two rests very much in the latter commonality. While they are both irreversible, only abortion has absolute permanence.

A child who has been abused can still have a life full of meaning and happiness. He or she can never erase the memory of what happened, but they can find peace in the same way as a loving parent who has lost a child, or a soldier who has returned from war, can. They can appreciate the beauty of every day; they can smile; they can laugh; they can have a family of their own which they can protect, and to which they can bring joy. Once they find peace, they can help others like themselves have it, too. In the end, their life can have more meaning than ours.

The victims of abortion can do none of these things. They see the light of day only once, as it shines through the warmth and security of their mother’s womb. It is the only light they will ever see. Before they experience life’s incredible joys, they are literally tortured to death, and by the one person who nature has entrusted to protect them. Unlike the abused child, there is no coping mechanism for what happens to them. There is no way out. They can’t scream, nor can they tell anyone about it. They suffer an assault unlike any we can empathise with, and all at the will of a mother who loves herself more than she loves them.

The true disparity rests in their respective psyches. The pedophile knows what he does is wrong, so he hides his sin, shameful of the desire which he fulfils. He knows his own self-centredness, and he knows serving it to be immoral.

The mother who would abort her child wears a smile cloaked under the veil of ‘choice’. She declares her own freedom and gluttonises her own selfish desires. She finds support in those as immoral as herself, and together they fight for a world in which morality is nothing more than the fulfilment of their own wants.  The mother does not share the pedophile’s shame, nor does she recognise her own sin. Instead, she tells the pedophile that fulfilling his selfish desires is wrong, and she calls him immoral. Hypocrite!

The pedophile who recognises his sin can be helped. The woman who calls her evil good can never be helped. She, more than any other, is destined for spiritual damnation.

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71 Comments

  • Reply Nick February 18, 2014 at 5:57 PM

    Glad to see you finally write about this topic.
    The amount of mental gymnastics that “pro-choice” people use to justify their actions would be laughable if it weren’t so tragic, and the fact that they’ve bizarrely managed to convince much of the public that abortion is a moral “right” is incredibly disturbing.
    Also, at the rate our societies are going, it’s really only a matter of time before pedophiles no longer “hide their sins,” and they too “declare their own freedoms and gluttonize their selfish desires.” What do you think, another twenty years? Or is that too high? Maybe ten?
    Right truly has become wrong, and wrong has become right.

    • Reply Toma February 18, 2014 at 7:35 PM

      At a time when the selfish were not the majority it was harder to get people onside with such ideals. Today, with the rise of secularism and man acting as his own law-maker, it is far easier. We need only appeal to man’s desire for absolute personal freedom. Tell him that if he agrees with you he can do what he wants, and he will grant you the same, so long as your interests do not conflict. But I know that you already know this.

      Society has already approved the greatest sin there is. The clock is ticking on everything else. 10 or 20 years? I’d say closer to 30, but who knows anymore.

      • Reply Pollen April 22, 2014 at 6:22 AM

        Is it not selfish for you to ask a woman to carry a child she does not want? I can and have communed with God and I assure that the way you see the world is not a way in which he would agree with. I know when you leave this life to go the next you will be the one with the unfavorable outcome.

        • Reply Anonymous March 19, 2015 at 6:55 AM

          Is it not selfish to kill an innocent child, who, though unwanted, has done no wrong, just because the child is unwanted?

          So tell me have you actually heard God’s voice?

          There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor? James 4:12
          You do not know if Toma is going to hell or not. Heck you do not even know if you are going to hell or not.

          • TheRealGod June 19, 2015 at 11:02 AM

            Have you? if so you might want to talk to a professional, because you are delusional. I also have no idea why you are quoting fiction, are these words supposed to have any meaning?

    • Reply lena March 29, 2015 at 1:33 AM

      So you are saying, a woman who is being raped and got pregnant should still have the baby?

      Or let’s say, you are being raped by your uncle and got pregnant. You will still have
      the baby?

      I am not saying abortion is.right but some people.don’t have choice just.like the examples.examples i gave you.

      you are really one -sided person aren’t you? This is your second article that i read and it’s such a shame. Anyway we are in a free world, you can express whatever you want just like i can tell your articles are full of selfish sh.t. Grow up and look at the both sides of coin.

      • Reply Anonymous March 30, 2015 at 2:05 AM

        i know i would still have the baby.

        murder is the worst sin, especially murder of the unborn

        • Reply TheRealGod June 19, 2015 at 11:05 AM

          Lying is a sin yet your life vision is based and founded on lies and dishonesty.

        • Reply Felicia August 26, 2015 at 2:50 PM

          Perhaps the uncle who raped you, Anonymous, also had HIV. Get off your religious high-horse and open your human eyes–the world is overpopulated, therefore, having this child who inevitably will just suffer and essentially be born to live a tragic, hard, painful life, just to die, is murder. So is selfishly giving birth to this already dying child whilst other humans are bound to suffer and die due to the overpopulation. Religion is the world war. This is sad.

      • Reply abba April 11, 2015 at 5:55 AM

        Abortions for rapes are Rare moron try researching before using refuted arguments ok?

  • Reply Nadia April 3, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    I am sorry that I found your site… did you ask that fetus to put its’ picture up on the internet? Big assumption that a mother does not have shame but a pedophile does? Toma you really need to stop the scary generalizations /conclusions? Have you ever been abused, a pedophile, a pregnant women, and an aborted fetus? Probably not… I know that what i say clearly won’t matter; but maybe your options are hurtful and bigot-like. I am sure the pope and Jesus would be so proud :)

    • Reply Toma April 3, 2014 at 12:54 PM

      Actually they would agree that abortion is worse than pedophilia. Catholics widely consider it the worst of all sins.

      I greatly appreciate it when comments are relevant to the articles, as opposed to being about me. I would very much like to know your thoughts on why it isn’t worse than pedophilia.

      • Reply James C April 4, 2014 at 9:42 AM

        To be fair, the Catholic church has shown again and again that it really isn’t all that concerned with pedophilia.

        • Reply Toma April 7, 2014 at 1:38 PM

          Simple minds believe simple things.

          http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/brokencross/brokencross.htm

          • Lucia March 3, 2015 at 5:07 PM

            Yet the church is always abusing children , thus , the stereotype existing .. Many people may buy your well put fancy words .. But you sir are ignorant about depression abortion and your whole website .. This website does not make you more righteous .. And by the way a fetus cannot see light until its born anyone smarter than the people eating your fallacies can quickly see this or else my glove is seeing light right now .. You believe in spiritualism .. Well one word. Karma. May God bless your soul … Smh

        • Reply Anonymous March 19, 2015 at 6:23 AM

          actually it is cleaning up the pedophilia and working to ensure that pedophilia is eliminated.

          get your facts right

      • Reply Star-Baby May 28, 2014 at 8:04 PM

        I thought not accepting the holy spirit was the worst of all sins. Isn’t that what your fairy tail says? Mathew 12:31 So I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.

        • Reply Toma May 28, 2014 at 8:49 PM

          There are many ways to blaspheme the spirit.

        • Reply Anonymous March 19, 2015 at 6:48 AM

          first of all its fairy TALE not fairy tail.

          “Spirit” in this sentence means God, not the Holy Spirit. And blasphemy here would mean a sin against God (ex: breaking one of the Ten Commandments, such as “Thou shalt not kill”)

      • Reply marie June 26, 2014 at 12:22 PM

        All sins are weighed equally in gods eyes. It is us humans who place weight on which we consider worse. In gods eyes the vast majority of us are no better than serial killers. The point is that our sins can be redeemed.

        • Reply Nick June 26, 2014 at 3:34 PM

          Yes, but sins can only be redeemed if one acknowledges one’s sins. One of the points of the article is that the pro-“choice” crowd not only refuse to see the evil of their philosophy, but they celebrate it as good and right under the guise of “choice.” And that’s just disturbing.

        • Reply Anonymous March 19, 2015 at 6:45 AM

          Abortion is the worst sin of all… not all sins are equal.

          Do you really think that swearing and killing someone are equal? If so, you might want to find some sense of morality and right and wrong.

          God loves us all equally, no one is better than anyone else in His eyes.

        • Reply TheRealGod June 19, 2015 at 11:10 AM

          Oh you talked to him lately? Or is it that his opinion hasn’t changed in 1000s of years or the last time somebody who you all believed without doubting him, was the son of god?

    • Reply Pollen April 22, 2014 at 6:18 AM

      I’m sorry I found his site too. I have been raped and molested and I can tell you that I would have rather been aborted than forced to go through that. I am still picking up the pieces of something that happened over 10 years ago. You know what is really messed up? I feel guilt over allowing it to happen to me! I was a child and logically I know it wasn’t my fault but feelings aren’t always logical. I have never had an abortion but I assure you if I was put in a position to consider it and went through with it I would certainly feel guilt over it. The opinions of this Toma guy are very closed minded and he is one of those people that makes me lose faith in humanity. Of course he would say the same of me.

    • Reply Anonymous March 19, 2015 at 6:51 AM

      remember Nadia, it is not a fetus, it is a baby.

      And also, you do not know what Toma has been through, perhaps he has been abused.

    • Reply David Edward April 7, 2015 at 7:00 AM

      I was just laughing at your post until I saw you compare the pope to Jesus Christ. Jesus is God’s one and only son, perfect, flawless; the pope is Satan’s messenger who’s publicly embraced immorality and sin.

      • Reply David Edward April 7, 2015 at 7:06 AM

        Btw, that comment was in reference to Nadias post.

  • Reply James C April 4, 2014 at 9:39 AM

    This article does nothing to help the cause of abortion and the image you used is inflammatory and offensive. Simple-minded tactics like comparing abortion to pedophilia is nothing but an excuse for you to feel morally superior to people who hold a different opinion than you. History teaches us that limiting access to safe abortions only leads to people seeking backdoor abortions that put the woman at serious risk. This, of course, is intentional on the part of the “pro-life” movement, which has always sought to punish women rather than protect life. If you were truly interested in saving lives and reducing the number of abortions, you would write an article about the need for expanded sexual education and increased access to affordable birth control, as these are the only things that have been proven to decrease abortion rates. Instead, you resort to this hyperbolic picket line bullshit. You are worthless as a writer and an embarrassment to the cause you’re pathetically attempting to champion.

    • Reply Toma April 7, 2014 at 1:36 PM

      Decreasing abortion rates is easy. Don’t be a whore. That should result in a 95% reduction. Instead we choose to pollute our bodies and our spirits, and to then murder our own offspring. It’s a true cycle of self-centred fulfilment.

      If on the other hand we chose to actually marry who we love, and have sex afterwards, all the while appreciating the gift that it is, and the magic that stems from it, would we not be better off?

      • Reply James C April 15, 2014 at 2:56 AM

        You’re comment of “Don’t be a whore” is very telling. You’re not interested in stopping abortion, but in slut-shaming. You’re uncomfortable with the idea of women who express sexuality outside of the narrow paradigm of what you see as traditional marriage. You’re a hate-filled person, who has no interest in actually trying to stop abortion, unless it’s by stopping everyone from having sex. Good luck with that, you pathetic simpleton.

        • Reply Toma April 15, 2014 at 6:35 AM

          Even more telling is your outright assumption that my use of the ‘whore’ only referred to women. That makes you a chauvinist. If men stop being whores that too will reduce abortions, will it not?

          • Me Myself And I May 18, 2014 at 2:42 PM

            Where did James say female slut-shaming?
            Look, humans are built for sex. I am a virgin, but I’m open to sex before marriage, with birth-control, safe-sex, and a consenting partneer.
            Abortion is completely my choice if I am with child though.
            I have anixety, and panic disorder. Also, I am not of stable economic position. If I need one, I’m getting it. I am not going to die from not being able to breathe during a panic attack based of baby worries. Though I’m also not going to deny myself pleasure.
            I would much rather kill a pack of cells than possibly put myself into worse mental state.

          • Toma May 18, 2014 at 2:46 PM

            Count the I’s.

            I pray you find a selfless path before you are faced with such a decision.

          • Me Myself And I May 18, 2014 at 3:34 PM

            Yes, I ton of I’s. I care for my body. Though I do care for others, I will not die for pack of cells.

          • Nick May 19, 2014 at 2:47 AM

            Even the screen name she chose is about as individual-centric as you can get.
            Me, me, me, above all else. Hopefully someday people will realize that’s how you know abortion’s wrong, not drawn-out arguments over definitions of when “life” begins.

          • Nick May 19, 2014 at 2:41 AM

            “Where did James say female slut-shaming?”

            Quote from James: “You’re uncomfortable with the idea of women who express sexuality outside of the narrow paradigm of what you see as traditional marriage.”

            Right after the sentence about slut-shaming. No reference to men. It was strongly implied.

        • Reply Anonymous March 19, 2015 at 6:35 AM

          personally, as a woman, i find other women who sleep around alot to be lacking in some degree of self respect.

          lets leave out the name calling, ok?

          • ela May 29, 2015 at 11:50 PM

            how are they lacking self respect? sex is natural, its a part of who we are, as humans. to express these natural urges, is completely, beyond normal. stop letting your judgement cloud your logic.

      • Reply Eyecee June 7, 2015 at 3:15 AM

        Married woman get abortions too you fucking moron! Stop writing on subjects you know nothing about, you sound like an idiot. Your articles are pointless, you don’t teach people something new, you don’t write the facts and your so emotionally charged it’s like reading something written an angry child. No one cares what you think anyway. You’ll never be able to do anything about abortions, you have no control, no say, no input whatsoever. In fact this has nothing to do with you at all. Its disturbing that you felt the need to publish this and so self absorbed that you think people give a fuck.

      • Reply M. Franc June 19, 2015 at 8:58 PM

        I’ve been reading this website because, despite my staunchly opposing view points on much of it, I initially ran across what appeared sincere and intelligent discussion/debate. After reading the above reply I’m afraid I was mistaken. I refuse to pollute my mind with this garbage any longer, and recommend anyone with any true empathy to do the same. This writer is nothing more than a fomenter and provocateur of strife, prejudice, division, and condemnation.

        What kind of person compares abortion and pedophilia. In persuasive comparisons you attempt to create two opposing psycho-emotional initiatives. You cannot “talk down” one without “talking up” the other. Anyone who feels justified for any reason in “talking up” pedophilia is not only not worth listening too, but destructive and dangerous in their agendas.

        There is nothing “selfless” about this man.

        • Reply Toma June 19, 2015 at 9:04 PM

          Fallacy!

    • Reply Anonymous March 19, 2015 at 6:42 AM

      Contraception is wrong because it’s a deliberate violation of the design God built into the human race, often referred to as “natural law.” The natural law purpose of sex is procreation. The pleasure that sexual intercourse provides is an additional blessing from God, intended to offer the possibility of new life while strengthening the bond of intimacy, respect, and love between husband and wife. The loving environment this bond creates is the perfect setting for nurturing children

      Every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, proposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible is intrinsically evil

      Practicing abstinence is neither punishment for women nor men, rather abstinence prevents regrets after breakups, unwanted pregnancy, and STDs.

  • Reply Ben Cooper April 6, 2014 at 1:47 PM

    Toma, you should try to get your pictures from sources that better represent what you are attacking. Judging by the specimen in the picture, less than 1% of abortions take place at the stage of development depicted.

    Also, whether or not someone is a hypocrite, in short, depends on whether or not their values are internally contradictory. You merely projected YOUR values onto the people doing the things you think are wrong, and claimed that results in a hypocrite. Of course it does! That’s a tactic anyone could use by anyone to call anyone who disagreed with them a hypocrite. (It’s a fallacious, incorrect way of thinking.) It’s simply close-minded and transparent.

    Finally, I won’t say anything detailed about how judgmental your arbitrarily prejudice is to claim anyone who gets an abortion is doing so for selfish desires. The world is not so simple that you can settle on reliable conclusions based mostly on your arbitrary preconceptions. Putting more effort into representing everything your supposedly inerrant holy book says rather than cherry picking the parts to use religion as justification for your irrational cynicism would help you find that ‘better life’ you claim a lot of other people lack.

    • Reply Toma April 7, 2014 at 1:56 PM

      If they were more interested in the child than themselves then they wouldn’t be having an abortion. I’m not seeing how this can be viewed any other way.

  • Reply chris April 7, 2014 at 4:43 AM

    what a sweet little baby…peace to him/her sorry he or she had to be our display of reality.

    • Reply Toma April 7, 2014 at 2:07 PM

      Yep. It hurts me every time I look at it. Such is our reality.

  • Reply becbec April 13, 2014 at 6:20 PM

    Hahaha hahahaha toma’s at it again. The crap you come out with is hilerious. I see your articles not as a serious debate/analysis of a situation, but as a way to understand you as a person. So far i have discovered a rather big headed gentlemen with a selfish need for attention but writing shock value articles with no really corroboration. Cant wait for the next peice of the puzzle, im guessing maybe we will all see some more insights into you, perhaps a small penis…

    • Reply Anonymous March 19, 2015 at 6:32 AM

      lets leave the name calling back in kindergarten, shall we?

  • Reply Marie May 5, 2014 at 3:45 AM

    The difference is, the mother is a person who is conscious. The mother knows what life is and what she wants to do with it. A foetus won’t lose anything by dying because he/she never knew what life was. The brain structures and nerve-cell connections that characterize the thinking and feeling parts of the brain are not completed until between the 7th and 8th months of gestation. Only after 30 weeks do the brain waves show patterns of waking consciousness when pain can be perceived. The baby won’t lose anything since he isn’t consicous of te thing called life and he will live in a better world (since your a catholic), the mother on contrary will maybe suffer her whole life by looking at her child because his father raped her. The mother can be depressed her whole life because her child is disabled and unhappy and she can’t do anything anymore to grow in her life and the child never asked to be alive in such a condition. An unwanted child will feel the mother wanted to live her life different and will maybe suffer his whole life because of it. A child born in war or with parents who have no food will maybe live a horrible life. Sometimes its just the best for the mother AND the child (since the child doesn’t lose something he has, he doesn’t realise anything).The child has no clue of what life is and can’t think in a early stadium, he doesn’t lose anything, only the prospect of life wich he doesn’t realise. While a person who is raped has to live in a world full of uncertainty and the returning pain and he or she maybe wants to die. You can lead pain by a disease, die,…All those unpleasant things in live. A foetus will never realise those things because he never really existed as a conscious person. Thats why i choose not to have children,in this uncertain world, rather adopt. Besides, we are all already overpopulated. Indeed, people should try not to make mistakes by having safe sex, but a ‘stupid’ teenage girl shouldn’t pay a price that high for her actions, She has the right to life her live the way she wants ( with lots of love, knowledge, fun,…whatever fits for her) and she has the right to do with her body what she wants since the baby (sorry to say this) is actually just a ‘parasite’ in the beginning. Its not that she takes the life from her baby since he doesn’t really have one at that time. Its not that i’m pro abortion, its always better if the child stays alive of course, but i’m pro choice, the most important for me is that the mother makes a choice that makes her happy, since she doesn’t make her baby unhappy in a early stage by aborting it.

    There is no scientific consensus as to when human life begins. It is a matter of philosophic opinion or religious belief. Human life is a continuum—sperm and eggs are also alive, and represent potential human beings, but virtually all sperm and eggs are wasted. Also, two-thirds of human conceptions are spontaneously aborted by nature.
    Many people believe that bringing an unwanted child into the world is a crime, and that forcing a woman to have a child against her will is morally wrong. Being born is a gift and not a right.

    • Reply Nick May 5, 2014 at 7:49 AM

      In other words, your definition of morality is individual-centric. It’s all about the individual, and individual “choice” and the individual getting what he or she wants based on his or her perceptions and personal definitions.
      Personally, I don’t believe that’s morality at all. In fact, I think it’s literally the opposite of what it means to be moral.
      Anything can be justified if you put the individual at the center of the justification. Name any act considered to be “evil” by most people, and I guarantee it can be “justified.” In fact, I’m pretty sure that’s what happens all the time – how many people who do “wrong” really consider themselves the “bad guy?”
      At the end of the day, debates over when “life” begins are nonsense and they’re pointless, because definitions are ultimately arbitrary, and the “pro-choice” crowd can and will always choose whichever definition suits them. Yet what they don’t realize is that the precise definition of “life” really doesn’t have anything to do with the morality of abortion and is ultimately irrelevant.
      Abortion is wrong because ninety-nine percent of the time, the mother is doing it for herself and her comfort, no matter how much she convinces herself otherwise. Taking a process that is, by definition, inherently about something more than a single individual and making it all about an individual – that is, literally, evil. For perspective, it’s the same reason that gay “marriage” is wrong – not because it will directly “destroy” society, but because it takes an institution that is inherently about more than the individual and makes it all about the individual and individual happiness based on the imposition of the will of a vocal, militant minority over the majority.
      These two examples are symptoms of what our society now values – me, me, me, above all else, and that is not a good thing, and that is what makes them wrong.
      When it comes down to it, the very fact that the center of pro-abortion ideology centers around the individual and individual “choice” above all else is how you know that it’s wrong.

      • Reply Marie May 6, 2014 at 5:05 PM

        What’s wrong with individuality? I don’t think it is unmoral of me when i want to see people happy. Its the most important thing in live, being yourself, being happy, to live your life as a spiritual being connected with others or nature.Nobody is happy when they have to live in a lie. Thats what i love to do, making people happy, having deep conversations with them, show compassion to people, listen to people to understand them, learning things about psychology, develop myself and help people who are feeling very guilty because the judgemental nature of humans. I find it selfish to force someone to be unhappy because of a mistake. I know where you comming from, but what do you want then? That everyone devalues themselves and that everyone has to sacrifice themselves completely? The world would be very depressing. Everyone strives to be happy, you too. How would you feel if i denied you the right to be what you want to be? How would you feel if i told you to leave your wife because the majority of the people is gay? Not everyone has to follow the majority, you just get copies then and mainstream people, not everyone is the same; You don’t have to suffer because you’rd the majority, but gay people also deserve to be happy with a person they love like anyone wants. If people would just mind their own happiness by not trying to destroy the happiness of another person, the world would be so much better. Morality is subjective in every culture. Its wrong if you hurt anyone, but its also wrong to hurt yourself. Why would you hurt yourself then if you don’t hurt anyone by aborting a foetus? If your happy, you can make others happy, you can do things for others. if you live your life in a lie you can’t. You do more wrong than good by forcing someone to keep a child if she is raped, by making a person unhappy, while otherwise nobody would be unhappy.

        • Reply Anonymous March 19, 2015 at 6:31 AM

          about rape, i would remind you that a good number of women who conceived a child through rape and kept and raised that child love that child dearly.

          also she has the option of putting the child up for adoption.

    • Reply Toma May 5, 2014 at 8:17 AM

      Thanks for taking the time to share your opinion in such detail. A few thoughts:

      – if consciousness is the true indicator of life, then all those poor bastard lying in vegetative states should be legally dead. The fact that so many ‘unconscious’ people regain consciousness establishes that it is not. Unless we believe that they died and came back to life.

      – how a mother chooses to respond to and raise her child is as much a choice as aborting it. If she is the victim of rape, no doubt the child could be viewed as a reminder of the trauma, but only if she takes that perspective . The consciousness you speak of permits us to choose our viewpoint.

      – if being born truly is a gift, it truly is the greatest gift of all. To give a gift of such magnitude is the greatest act of selflessness possible. To not do so is an act of selfishness beyond comparison.

      • Reply Marie May 6, 2014 at 5:19 PM

        – No that poor person has had a life, so its worth fighting for. He knew people, people loved him, he loved people. But honestly,in his situation i think i wouldn’t want to be kept awake. Because i know i would never be the same and i wouldn’t be able to live my life the fulliest. Better one full live and die. I would be mad at first at my family i think for putting me trough that ordeal, altough i would be very happy to see them again and hug them. But that’s my personal opinion of course. I wouldn’t want them to sacrifice anything for me and i expect the same from others towards me. Of course i would visit often. But to stop completely living your life? Why would my live be less important than the live of that person? expecting from others to sacrifice to much is wrong, if everyone was just a little bit more responsible for his own happiness.

        – Yes but not everyone is able to do that. You wouldn’t be that happy. You wouldn’t be able to give as much to world because you’re more unhappy. You can imagine a situation where you wouldbe entirely unhappy too. Without your wife, children. Alone in a mine where you have to work 24/24. You wouldn’t be happy if i told you you were selfish by nothing it. Well, the situation is different but it can feel the same for a person who is totally not ready for a child, for a person who wants to give so much to the world but has to stay home al day. Some people just really can’t handle a child.

        – I would doubt if its a gift is all you have to do is live your live like others want it. I would be rather death than be controlled and forced to live a horrible life. You deny the gift to a possible child everyday by not making your wife pregnant again, or by using anticonception. al that semen that dies, such a waste.

        • Reply Anonymous March 19, 2015 at 6:28 AM

          Marie, for those who cannot handle a child, they can always put the child up for adoption.

          Life is a gift from God, it is He who give life, and thus only He who can take a life.

          • Lucinda May 3, 2015 at 8:28 PM

            I sure don’t agree with abortion – but adoption is a close second in evil barring extreme circumstances. The Creator created woman & child as a unit and they should stay a unit. And it is doable.

  • Reply caitlin February 24, 2015 at 11:51 AM

    I am always amazed that a man feels he has the right to determine what a woman does with her body. As a man, you will never have the experience of an unwanted pregnancy. You have absolutely no idea what that is like. How dare you assume you have any authority over the matter. Perhaps we should castrate men who impregnate women as well? What do you think?

    • Reply Toma February 26, 2015 at 9:10 AM

      Have you any idea how cliché this sounds? Are you also saying that men don’t experience unwanted pregnancies?

      • Reply Toma March 19, 2015 at 6:34 AM

        No because men don’t have a menstrual cycle stupid

        • Reply ela May 29, 2015 at 11:52 PM

          toma, how the fuck can men experience pregnancies, let alone unwanted ones? you’re so bloody stupid and bigoted it physically HURTS me.

    • Reply Anonymous March 19, 2015 at 6:26 AM

      i am a woman. and i absolutely agree with Toma.

      Toma is defending the unborn children who cannot speak for themselves.

      A pregnant woman is not just choosing what she does with her body, but also the child which she carries. Someone must defend that child who cannot speak for themselves

      • Reply TheRealGod June 19, 2015 at 11:17 AM

        yes and you are also mentally challenged but who cares…babies cannot even think, so without a thought process there is nothing to speak about.

  • Reply Human #10038293893 March 19, 2015 at 12:46 AM

    I, too, have an opinion about this article. In case anyone was wondering.

  • Reply Anonymous March 19, 2015 at 6:19 AM

    life begins AT CONCEPTION. therefore abortion in all cases is wrong.

    and remember ADOPTION IS AN OPTION. there are plenty of people who are wanting to adopt, who want to have a child to love.

    Thank you Toma for this article- you really know you’re theology well

  • Reply Jenny April 22, 2015 at 2:53 PM

    Pedophiles don’t even think what they’re doing is wrong. This is often due to being mentally unwell. Majority don’t feel shameful. I’d like to see the facts to the bullshit you’re spitting out.

  • Reply Jenny April 22, 2015 at 3:15 PM

    Paedophilia is worse than abortion? You are ignorant. Abortions are a decision not because one does not love a child, but sometimes they simply can’t have one. You could even argue as until the 24th-28th week of a pregnancy, a foetus does not even have a consciousness (source 3). It isn’t even classified as a life scientifically until it is born. To be a paedophile someone is deciding to violate someone in one of the most inhuman ways possible, for selfish reasons due to mental problems (which you claim simply don’t exist). Ruining a child’s innocence, scarring them for in many victims cases- forever, is worse than killing something that isn’t even aware of its own existence.
    People get abortions before the embryo or foetus even has a consciousness. An unfertilized egg does not have a consciousness, are you guilty for not having that potential child? No. Feel free to share your opinion, but don’t bully people over their decisions.
    In response to paragraph 7:
    Where is your evidence that mothers smile and are joyful about their abortion? What’s to say that women don’t regret and feel loss for their unborn child? A paedophile gluttonises their selfish desires too. Majority of paedophiles don’t feel shame! “Pedophiles, on the other hand, genuinely like kids. Somewhere along the way their thinking regarding love, sex, and kids became completely muddled. Most of them are very insecure and lonely. They feel that only children will give them unconditional love, and in their psychologically unbalanced minds, they equate love with sex even when the object of their affection is a child. They do not view their behaviour as wrong. They believe that adult men have the right to have sex with kids if there is mutual consent. “ – Source one. Paedophiles can be classed as a mental disorder, which in previous posts you seem to believe people have a control over. Many paedophiles don’t believe what they’re doing is wrong, and the ones that do have the option of seeking treatment. But they don’t. Instead, they feed their predator urges. 4% of the population of the world is believed to have paedophilic urges
    Where is your evidence of these women who abort their children while smiling? A mother often does not share in the shame of a paedophile because it simply doesn’t exist. And I’m sure for every guilty paedophile, there is a woman who feels guilt over her decision to abort her child.
    ‘You can always give your child up for adoption?’ Who is going to pay for all of the bills of bringing that child into the world? Doctors’ appointments, pregnancy clothing, having to take time off of schooling or work so you can throw another child in an orphanage, where they may never be adopted. Who is going to pay all of that? You could lose your family and friends who will shame you for becoming pregnant. It’s almost always the woman’s word against a man’s when it comes to legal system. Only 18% percent of rape cases that are actually taken to court end in a prosecution. In America, data suggests that only 10% of rape cases are reported. Of that, 38% cases of rape are prosecuted. Source 2 backs that fact up. There is such injustice with prosecuting rapists who have the potential of impregnating people. Saying ‘stop whoring around’ won’t simply cut the rates of rape. In the United States a woman has a one in five change of being raped. It isn’t selfish to look after yourself- a victim- and decide to have an abortion. It’s human. It’s survival.
    When did it become selfish to think about ourselves- if we don’t take care of ourselves, who will? Some women and children can’t emotionally handle having a child. I support those who choose not to have an abortion as must as a person who decides to have an abortion. If you believe abortion is wrong, why are you belittling people who believe it isn’t? You have no facts whatsoever to back up your argument. It’s practically invalid.
    In Cambodia, children under the age of ten are sold as virgins to men because they find it ’empowering’ in their culture and that it will bring them good luck to have sex with a virgin. They sell them for a lot of money, and when they get these poor little victims back they stitch them back up without anaesthetic and sell them again. They do this 3-4 times. (Source is from ‘A road to lost innocence’, a non-fiction novel about a women who went through horrible child trafficking.) Then when they’re done with them, they will sell them to ‘whore houses’ where many of them don’t ever escape until they’re too old for their vaginas to be of value. Would it be wrong if they had an abortion? Or is that selfish too. When they can’t even afford food for themselves. Give them up for adoption? That’s a joke. The furthest they’d get is to sell their child to a family who will sell them for a higher price when they are old enough. Child trafficking is real, not everyone gets over this.

    As a woman, you have the right to choose to have an abortion or not. You have the right to believe abortions are evil or not, but sometimes it is best to keep that opinion to yourself. Being violated as a child is a feeling that someone will never get over. Yes they can laugh and smile and be capable of joy again, that is true. But a foetus or embryo that is aborted is not tortured. It does not feel pain as the brain is not connected to the rest of the body to feel this. Source 4 and 5 will explain more. Quoting religious books in this argument has no meaning to back up your opinions as they are not facts. Beliefs are opinions, and yours aren’t even backed up by facts that would logically support them.
    Source 1: http://www.modernmom.com/e64cdd0a-3b3d-11e3-be8a-bc764e04a41e.html
    Source 2: https://www.uky.edu/CRVAW/files/TopTen/07_Rape_Prosecution.pdf
    Source 3: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/when-does-consciousness-arise/
    Source 4: http://www.salon.com/2013/08/07/fetal_pain_is_a_lie_how_phony_science_took_over_the_abortion_debate/
    Source 5: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19089-24week-fetuses-cannot-feel-pain.html

  • Reply mi April 23, 2015 at 4:09 AM

    I don’t even know what to say….Because your opinion is stupid. a fetus is not a human being. the world would not be a better place particularly for women if it was made illegal. and since when did pro choice become anti life. This is the dumbest thing I’ve read all day. I can’t believe I’m commenting on it.

  • Reply mi April 23, 2015 at 4:12 AM

    You must really dislike women .

    • Reply TheRealGod June 19, 2015 at 11:12 AM

      He is a closet pedophile, lets hope he stays in the closet and never hurts any child.

  • Reply AproductofyourBS July 28, 2015 at 6:16 PM

    There’s a lot of amateur psychologists here, so let me go ahead and throw my educated opinion in the ring.

    Intent matters. Result matters.

    Most people who molest and rape children do not fit the criteria for pedophilia, but are instead sadists and sexual deviants. It’s rare to find someone who exclusively is attracted to children and *thinks* they are just loving the children by molesting them. Though both are abhorrent, it’s a sad reality that a child would be more fortunate to encounter a true pedophile rather than a “sadist” (the MAJORITY of child molesters) who delight in controlling and harming a powerless and innocent person, hurting, raping and taking their innocence. Also, most rape is also about power and transferring feelings of shame. Children happen to make great targets for sadists, since they can’t fight back. Basically, EVIL in it’s purest form.

    Intent: Harm
    Result: Harm that lasts a LIFETIME, that could possibly be contagious…

    Now on to abortion. I’ve never encountered a woman who delighted in having an abortion. Very young and immature women who didn’t give it much consideration, and later regretted it, yes. Women who felt they had little other choice, due to a lack of support from society, family, friends AND the father who helped create it, and wished it was different, that they did have support from at least one person? Yes. Women whom already had other LIVING children to consider, who knew one more mouth to feed would be the tipping point into homelessness and starvation for the rest of the family? Yes. Women who were raped or tricked into pregnancy by abusive and controlling men, that they didn’t want to be legally tied to for the next 18 years or subject their current or future children to? Yep. Women who have had almost ALL of those factors coinciding at once (no support, emotional or physical, abusive and controlling partners, living in poverty, with children they already need to support). Abortion is not a choice of the powerful, exerting their will on others. It’s a choice made by people who are oppressed and can not fathom adding the responsibility for another life, on top of already devastating circumstances in their lives. Even the most cold hearted bitches I’ve known, were sad when they opted to have abortions. It was always circumstance driven.

    Intent: Freedom
    Result: A unwanted child will not be born

    By the way, sadists and pedophiles tend to prey on unwanted and overlooked children. Children who’s parents aren’t around or involved. These same children you demand should be born into the world.

    Btw, I was raised by a pro-life catholic mother, who put us through hell by refusing to use birth control and having way more kids than her wel-fare check or parents could handle. All of us older children, who were left to fend for ourselves, no matter how successful in life or not- all struggle with severe depression and endured so much abuse it would make your head spin. Every single one of us will tell you “We rather she’d just had an abortion”, especially after being made to wear a cross of “I gave up EVERYTHING to have you, and you’re ungrateful so now I’ll treat you however I wish or dump you into foster care” like we were objects.

    Being born to poor parents who don’t want you, is not a life I would wish on anyone. Oh and foster care? Sucks just as bad. You will never feel at home or like part of the family, it’s almost torture when they have kids of their own and you have to live in their home and witness what your life “could” have been like, as an outsider and CHILD, if only you’d been WANTED by your own parents. They might be good hearted people, but they don’t love you like they love their real children, and it’s torturous to witness that everyday and have to “play” along.

    Honestly, being born feels like a cross I’ve had to bear everyday of my life. I won’t commit suicide because I realize it is selfish and would hurt my friends and family members, plus now I’m already invested in this life. However, I’m being very honest in saying, I wish my mother had just aborted me, rather than made me an unwanted person of the world. No matter how smart, kind or accomplished I have become or will become, everyday still feels like torture knowing how fractured and filled with pain my family of origin was, is, and will continue to be.

    From the time I was a child, pro-lifers have annoyed the shit out of me. They will sit there and protest abortion, while overlooking the shoeless, dirty and hungry child standing right in front of them. Sometimes they’ll even sneer and make shitty comments they *think* are out of earshot of the child about how dirty, unkept or underfed the child is (I know because I was this child). Meanwhile, they never lift a single finger to actually HELP all these poor, unwanted children, they DEMAND should be born. They are so transparent it would hurt my heart. They and you don’t give two shits about these people OR their children, you just want a soapbox to stand on so you can judge other people and pat yourself on the back for being so “enlightened” and better than them. You are no saints, you’re hypocrites who delude yourselves into thinking you are “morally superior”, when all you are is arrogant and willfully ignorant to other people’s suffering.

  • Reply aproductofyourbs July 28, 2015 at 7:56 PM

    OH and for any “pro-lifer” that likes to push your agenda by shaming women; I challenge you to stand outside an abortion clinic and rather than “shame” these women- offer one a home, a lifetime (or atleast 18yrs) of financial, physical and emotional support.

    Basically, put up or shut up. Regardless of pro-life or pro-choice, no one likes a hypocrite. I have zero respect for outspoken pro-lifers. Until they start volunteering to HELP these people, actually climbing in and getting their hands dirty rather than shaming women who are already facing a tragedy, they will continue to be nothing more than emotional sadists in my eyes.

  • Come on. Your opinion matters.